Святата и скверната машина на любовта

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  • Title: Святата и скверната машина на любовта
  • Author: Iris Murdoch Ивайла Божинова
  • ISBN: 9548440806
  • Page: 388
  • Format: Paperback
  • 1 thought on “Святата и скверната машина на любовта”

    1. i have an iris murdoch headache. she made me cry like she always does, and i feel vaguely like i've just eaten a huge piece of blue cheesecake, heavy and hypnotic in its dense richness, dotted with sour bits, not too sweet. her people are very real and audacious. they are crazy and they are convincing. i think, 'yes, this is very true, people are like that, damn them.' i would argue that there's not really a main character in this novel but rather it concerns a coterie of characters: david and h [...]

    2. “You know what. You've killed me and sent me to hell, and you must descend to the underworld to find me and make me live again. If you don't come for me, I'll become a demon and drag you down into the dark.” ― Iris Murdoch, The Sacred and Profane Love MachineNow, that’s the kind of love than is a joy to read about, if not to experience. About two pages into this novel, I was ready to propose to this ingenious piece of writing. Let's for the purpose of this metaphor imagine I really went [...]

    3. I just looked it up in our wonderful Wikipaedia and found that Iris Murdoch wrote 27 novels, the rest of her writings philosophy, plays and poetry. I haven't read them all, but by comparison The Sacred and Profane Love Machine stands out from the rest which is also excellent, of course. Well, what can I say about Iris Murdoch that hasn't been said before - and better. What is so very enjoyable in any book by Iris Murdoch is how she uses her vast knowledge, studies, readings - in short her knowle [...]

    4. I am very mad at this book right now. Even though I finished it six months ago. Still, angry. I think I should give it higher stars, because it was making me think and feel things in ways I don't usually do. I was getting kinda crazy. I wanted to hurl the book away from me, but it wasn't because it was bad. She simply knows how much people and things suck sometimes, and how they suck in a lot of unique and terribly self-deceptive ways. So, while this book is brilliant about people and deserves w [...]

    5. I don't think I've ever read another book with quite such a convincingly fully-fleshed cast of characters. This is my first Murdoch, but I assume this ensemble psychological interplay stuff was her thing, seeing as she did it so well here. This is one of those books that makes you realise you could never be a writer, because some people really are just so damned good at itI can't say that I loved TSaPLM. It was engrossing as I was reading it, but whenever I put it down I felt disinclined to pick [...]

    6. While reading The Sacred and Profane Love Machine I could not contain my mind from whispering Zelda Fitzgerald’s quote:“Nobody has ever measured, not even poets, how much the heart can hold.” . Iris Mudoch explores through her characters a world of pain and agony in contrast with inocence, each emotion being closely supervised by each one’s conscience Child or adult, gullible or cynicle, characters choose to lie or to accept lies in order to maintain an ordinary life; until the unconceiv [...]

    7. Sacred and profane love. A man with 2 families - his "sacred", or legitimate family comprised of his wife and son David, and his "profane" comprised of his mistress and son Luca. These families slowly start to unravel and take the participants down with them. Exploration of the meaning of love and neverending quest for the heart's satisfaction.

    8. I loved how Murdoch probes into the thoughts and emotions of each character, her astounding clarity of writing be it in dealing with their emotions or mapping out the escalation of situations. Her analyses of relationships are sharp and incisive -- sometimes too much so, I feel, but it never feels contrived, rather as if these characters of hers had spent far too much time thinking about themselves and the state they are in than seems possible for such ordinary people. She writes sentiment and e [...]

    9. I have tried Iris Murdoch's work several times and have always bogged down and given up. This one tempted me to do the same, since it's not the kind of novel that appeals to me--it has hardly any plot: it's more an agonizing situation, repetitively described from multiple characters' perspectives, with, finally, some actual events that precipitate a very surprising conclusion--one which Murdoch clearly enjoyed, since she fooled the reader with a false one near the end. One reviewer commented th [...]

    10. Много хубава книга! Въпреки че е роман от ~400 страници, ми се видя като пиеса - няколко герои, както обичам, нищо не разсейва от същността на нещата, концентрирани конфликти, хората се сблъскват едни с други и най-вече сами със себе си. Доста паралели направих с "Лятото преди мр [...]

    11. What marks Irish Murdoch's novels is her benevolence. The main theme of the novels is love, love requited and unrequited, normal and abnormal. Terrible things may occur in her novels or be related by one of her characters but there is no indulgence in evil no presentation of it with malicious intent using realism or plot as a pretext for something unwholesome. The driving ambition of her characters is often victory in love. Defeat is frequent and harrowing but ultimately her faith in love prevai [...]

    12. This book was an amazing read. Hands down one of my best reads of 2013. I had never read one of Ms. Murdoch's novels before, but had heard of her notoriety as quite a prolific British author of the post-modern era. I had read about her in literary journals and such as well as hearing the odd question to an answer about her on Jeopardy. I was aware of her noted philosophical treatment of good and evil in many of her works, but for as much (or rather as little) as I knew, I always seemed to put of [...]

    13. Ultimately, I liked the book. It is very British, and it took my a while to get into, but overall it was a decent book. It had a rather deus ex machina ending, which, for a book with such a title, seems quite appropriate. I don't stand by the comments below 100%, but I still feel that the book was largely concerned with the mechanical way in which people approach their lives and relationships, and their unwillingness/inability to break free of this and change. One character seems to break free f [...]

    14. When people tell me they find Iris Murdoch hard going, I can see their point with this book. Its very dense and with long long pages of characters inner thoughts with comparatively little actual action/plot. But to me therein lies her genius. This is normal people, inflicting damage on each other - marriage, infidelity, conflicts of maternal love, jealousies etc - as normal people do. Murdoch, I think, deliberately sets this in very ordinary suburban setting. No gothic mansions or crumbling chur [...]

    15. I struggled with how to rate this book. I hated the ending -- it made me angry, in fact. However, up to the last 30 pages, I loved reading this -- gave me a lot to think about. I couldn't put it down.

    16. (#46 in my Year of Reading Women)Why do I always find Iris Murdoch so frustrating. I feel that I should enjoy her work far more than I actually do. This is a middling work, and there is a lot to intrigue me as a reader: Murdoch takes what looks to be a "happy" marriage and proceeds to tear it apart. The "Love Machine" in the title is, unfortunately, nothing like as salacious as you might like it to be - it's more (I think, but I'm not certain) that the "machine" is about how love, in both its sa [...]

    17. In the novel "The Sacred and Profane Love Machine" is a philosophical battle between two question; are we able to live without God? if so How Will Be Our behaviour? and it will follow What is Honesty? is it the feminine universe better than the masculine?In other words this novel is a portrait of insignificant people but extremely able to inflict suffering to their similar.Reading The Sacred and Profane you will be surprised about the characteristics of Blaise Gavender he is proud of having a do [...]

    18. I like racing through books. I'm either in or out when it comes to reading them. This book, though, was a plodder. It slowed down to a crawl for long stretches when describing a protagonist's inner state. If I remember right, the first actual scene with dialogs in the book comes well past the fiftieth page. By then, I was ready to tear my hair out because I'd had it with the in-depth treatment of every main character's state of being.That said, the book is for the emotionally aware. The author r [...]

    19. I saw someone reviewed this novel as "a British love pentagon" and I thought, hey, that was my life back in the day so why not re-live a little PTSD (yes, I did experience nightmares of British men with gapped teeth, considerable noses, and patchy facial hair while reading this). I was not disappointed, either. I mean the incest was a little much, but I get all the Freudian sexual, mother-son, theories, I GET IT, REALLY. I just wish there was a little more homosexuality, but this isn't my autobi [...]

    20. My first Murdoch. I refer delicately to one of our best contributors of story-telling in the twentieth century, Iris, unfortunate enough to share the surname associated with our lowest common offering, the twenty-first century's arsehole, Rupert who unlike Iris, could not support humans with a decent story or one of truth dare he try.This book took some time to finish off. I think in all honesty, the lifestyles of the rich crowd and their greatest drawing-room drama, supporting of course, great [...]

    21. This book is so infuriating, I kept cursing at it and the characters. But the story is intriguing, and it does not put on an act and tells a story about characters that make sense. This story really mirrors reality, because people do not make sense. This is why I liked the book. Still, I did not like the ending one bit, and Blaise Gavander will make everyone want to slap his face repeatedly.

    22. One of her better efforts. None of it felt contrived, except for the ending, which seemed rather tacked on and too convenient. Monty Small and Blaise Gavender are typical Murdochian males--intelligent, self-absorbed, fatuous, tortured, unable to escape from their self-made prisons.

    23. ack. this book took me forever to read. i just kept waiting for something about it to engage me. it never happened.

    24. Having now read 12 Iris Murdoch novels (still less than half of her published fiction), here, I think, are the themes or trends one encounters in a Murdoch novel. Her command of written English is breathtaking, on a par with Updike's. By now as I open the first page of one of her novels I begin pondering each character, usually exquisitely and often but not always sympathetically rendered, as to which one(s) Murdoch will kill off by the end of the book, and of those which ones gratuitously, whic [...]

    25. A novel puts you into the head of others. A narrator is the guide, taking you from the interior of one person and into the next. Iris Murdoch's art of narration shows the chaos of consciousness. She presents our minds tendency to fix firmly on a course of action, and then dissolve it's resolution as it becomes slave to new desires. I feel like saying that this novel is a 'proper' novel. Rich and dense. By this I mean it connects the inner life of words and feelings with the external world of obj [...]

    26. Иногда, когда я берусь за Мердок, у меня создается чувство, что я все время читаю одну очень длинную книжку про то, что бывает, когда в доме Облонских все смешалось настолько, что и все счастливые семьи тоже счастливы как-то по-своему, и далеко не всегда так, что хоть прям щас и [...]

    27. Harriet isn't stupid but is a bit of an imposition. David needs to get over himself. Blaise is arrogant: 'it comes to asking her to sacrifice herself, but she's the sacrificing type is probably the thing that will make her happiest to feel that she has saved me.' I didn't know that Catherine the Great disposed of her lovers. The introducer confuses Hamburg with Hanover and it would definitely spoil your reading of this excellent novel to read the introduction first.

    28. Read this book many years ago, but enjoyed re-reading it. Familiar Murdoch territory, a handful of conflicted characters, their romantic concerns and their startling freedom from economic pressures. A cerebral author, but always a good read.

    29. I love Murdoch for her wonderful brain and the way she is able to intersperse a philosophy of life and love and happiness in the beautiful prose of her stories.

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